Hello and welcome to another Christianity a to z podcast. My name is Tom Sweetman. I'm 1 of the ministers at Cornerstone Church in Kingston. I'm here with Ben Reid again. 1 of our assistant pastors with Pete, who is the senior pastor and this is Christianity a to zed.
We are looking today at the letter f and are going to be talking about the subject of faith for the doctrine of faith. This is only 1 of the things that we produce. You can go on to our website cornerstonechurch kingston dot org and have a look at resources there, sermons, articles, you can like and subscribe to our channels on social media on YouTube, all those things. And as I say today, we are looking at f. And Pete, as as usual, you're gonna kick us off with a verse.
Am I? Yeah. Oh, okay. We are doing that. We are doing that.
Okay. Well, agree. Great. Starts from the definition definition of Okay. Well, a great a great I mean, there are many great verses.
But here's a good 1, I think, because it incorporates it sort of brings in our our last session which was election with God choosing us. And this is Ephesians chapter 2 verse 8 to 10. It says for it is by grace you have been saved. So that's the work of grace, the work of God, through faith. And this is not from yourself.
It is a gift it is the gift of God. Not by works, so that no 1 can boast. For we are God's handy work created in Christ Jesus to do good works. Which Christ prepared in advance for us to do. What I like about that is it's it's telling us that it's all the work of God But the conduit or the sort of -- Mhmm.
-- the the root that we take on that work of God is by faith. Mhmm. And we'll speak about what faith really means in a minute and probably give more illustrations. But I that that is by trust, I think. So it's trusting what the Lord Jesus Christ has done by his grace for us.
And when I trust that, then I am saved. But just to make it clear that your trust, your faith isn't a good work as if it's some kind of religious work. This is a gift of God. So he's he's showing us very, very clearly that it is all the work of God in salvation but the conduit, the sort of means of us appropriating what God has done for us is by our trust in that. Yeah.
I think that's really a good distinction. And you know what 1 of the things that people often say or what they might say to Christians or people of faith is I wish I had your your faith. Yeah. And so I had a, you know, a chap I've known for for many years, wrote to me over Facebook the other day, and he told me that he'd been tuning into our Corona Chronicles and I had a, you know, I had lots of things to chat about, but 1 of the things he said was I wish I shared your faith. Yeah.
And I suppose behind that comment is lots of things, but it it The implication is that it's something that you've generated and you've come up with and you've found it within yourself to be a kind of faithful person. Whereas what you're saying there from that verse is that Christian faith is is actually a gift. It's it's God's gift. Yeah. So, I mean, in some ways, and he may be listening a lot of years.
In some ways, he's right and wrong on that because the faith of is a gift of God, and so he obviously hasn't got that. But in another way, faith word, we've got a we've got a sort of I mean, he has your faith but he has your faith in something else. He has the same amount of faith, but he's put it into something else. So if you take the word faith and just replace it with the word trust. I think it's better today because faith has got this religious connotations as if we have faith in faith.
We don't have faith in faith. Or faith is some kind of thing that saves us. It's just trust. Mhmm. And so the trust God gives us He opens our eyes up to see that we desperately need not to trust ourselves but to trust in Jesus Christ.
Your friend is trusting in himself or -- Mhmm. -- he's upbringing -- Different story of some kind. -- different story of some kind. We we must trust in Christ. Yeah.
Brilliant. That's quite helpful because a lot of people detach faith from thinking or any sort of personal responsibility, and they think it's an ethereal sort of weird hyper spiritualized thing that just hovers above you. And it's like, well, I could never have that because it's it's it's just so other and so different. But, yes, it's it's it's trusting and you trust something when you observe it and you look at it and you sort of find out about it. And you go, yeah, I put my trust in that.
Yeah. And that's something that that people can do. It's it's not something that's just sort of magically appears like you're saying Tom within someone like you've conjured up within you. That's amazing. I I could never do that.
Yeah. So the the question is, is Jesus trustworthy with my life? Yes. Is he trustworthy for me to change my lifestyle and to obey him and to follow him? Yeah.
And, you know, a Christian is someone that says, yeah. I think he's more trustworthy with my life than I am. And therefore, I want to put my trust in him and what he's done for me. Yep. Yeah.
But, I mean, you would you you would sort of suggest, I think you've got if I can see oh, you got Hebrew. Sorry. I thought it was Romans. 10. I think in Romans 10.
Sorry. Let me just have a look here. You see that there is an intellectual. There there's an intellectual site faith. Yeah.
Because there's a knowledge. It's not just faith. Yeah. It's it's is this true? Yes.
And and Paul is talking about preaching the gospel. And he says in verse 13 of Romans 10, for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved, that's like faith. Mhmm. Trust. Mhmm.
I'm gonna call on him to rescue me. And he says, how then can they call on the 1 they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the 1 whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them, And how can anyone preach unless they are sent as it is written beautiful or the feet of him who bring good news? So there's a whole sort of intelligent thing there.
This is not just I wish I wish it's not wishful thinking face. Yeah. Is there's an intelligence base of is Jesus the savior of the world? Is he the son of God? Is he the 1 that can bring us to the father.
Is is he who he claims to be? Yeah. Because if if they don't hear about that, they won't be able to believe. So you have to hear and then believe. So there's substance.
Yes. And that's that's the that's good. The father's expectation. He doesn't expect you just to suddenly randomly wake up 1 day, it turned to him. He even the gospel came with Jesus who said, repent and believe, have faith in me.
But that message of the the good news of the gospel didn't arrive until he showed up -- Yep. -- and and he said, look at me, look at who I am, look what I'm going to do, And so the faith that we have in Christ is based on what we've seen Christ do. The gospel is not detached from something we observe and hear. Yeah. And and and so Jesus is the 1 who brings his feet at the most beautiful -- Mhmm.
-- because he sent and he comes with the good news. There's an old illustration just as you're talking, I was thinking about the, you know, about the chair that is often is often used where you could you could you could get chair in front of you, and you could analyze it from all kinds of different angles so you could talk about, you know, does it look sturdy? Are the legs made of metal? Do the screws and the joints look strong? Does it look like it would be able to hold my weight?
And there's all this kind of assessment you can do with the chair. But the act of trust or the moment of trust is when you actually sit on it and let it take your weight. Yeah. And there's something quite good in that, isn't there? So so when we're looking At Christian faith, we're talking about the person of Jesus.
As you say, we're looking into history, seeing about his life, his ministry, his death, his resurrection, his claims, and the act of trust is saying, okay, this this this all makes sense to me. This is true. What Jesus says about me is true. Lord, I want to follow Jesus. I want to and that's the act of sitting on the chair.
It's not just assessing. Is it? It's saying my life is now going to change as a result of the things that I know about Jesus. So And faith isn't good works there. Faith is just sitting on the chair.
Yeah. The chair is the good work -- Yeah. -- if you like. Yeah. I mean, the older illustration, if you like.
Yeah. Before chairs. Well, it is before chairs, but it is blondy. Yeah. And this used to be a real favorite, but I don't know whether people hear this anymore, but these are good old Victorian ones.
So Blonde was a a very famous type rope walker. He walks across a tight rope of the Niagara Falls. I think he was the first 1 to do it. And, I mean, it's just extraordinary because it's it's about an inch wide of the wire that he walks and he walks across the Niagara Falls. Everybody's clapping him.
And then he says, do you think I could take a wheelbarrow over? And everyone says, yeah. Yes. Yeah. What with us with load of sack of potatoes in.
Yeah. And he he does that. And everybody's clapping. He says, now those potatoes weigh about the same size as a human. Does everybody believe I can take a person across every room?
Yeah. If you take a person, this is where I'll take you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And then and then that it just makes it all different. Yeah. Yeah. And his manager did go in the end. Yeah.
And he did take someone across in in a wheelbarrow. And that's that's faith. Yeah. That's not just an intellectual faith. There's an intellectual faith.
We've seen that he can do it, and now there's the getting into the wheelbarrow and I'll let him do it for me. Yeah. And I think I think faith is also it it's trust in the character of God, isn't it? As he's revealed himself to be. So the there's an interesting words, you know, in in the old testament, a Hebrew word where the the word believe is often is is from the root word amen.
Which means to just agree to say our men means let it be so lord. You know, I I agree lord. And the word belief shares the same root as are men. And that's that's in many ways what faith is. It's hearing the promises of God and saying, yes, Lord.
They are true, lord. Let them be lord. I'm gonna live in light of your promises. And so that's that's a statement about God's character, isn't it? That that trust is knowing that he is faithful and that he does what he says.
And we're gonna live by his word and not our own. And I think in when you get to Hebrews 11 and we're told that you know, faith is the assurance of the things that we do not see. That is an important aspect of faith, isn't it? You know, there is a trust in what God has told us, even if we can't see it with our eyes now, that there is a new creation coming and Jesus gonna return and he's gonna raise us from the dead. We don't we don't actually see those things yet.
But because we know Jesus has come in history, And because we know what sort of God is revealed to us in the bible, we trust that he will he does not lie. He does not lie like we lie, and he does not change and shift. He does what he says. And so faith is saying, Lord, you know, it's all on you in some way. You know, we trust you to do what you've said, and we're gonna we're gonna live.
And there's a wonderful bit in Hebrews 11 where it says because the the people of old lived this way, God was not ashamed to called their God. In other words, he he honors people who trust him and anticipate the fulfillment of his word. And that that is what it is. And we're all we're all trusting in some kind of words, aren't we in this world, whether it's the, you know, the word of science or the word of our own hearts or the word of just living for experiences. There's some words and story we're living living for and Christian faith is just saying, it's God's story.
God is faithful, you know, we're gonna live for him. So It's interesting when people say the expression blind faith. Because as you were just saying, sometimes we don't see with our physical eyes, but we trust what God has said. So in in a sense it's blind because we can't see it, but it's not blind at all in the sense that we have no reason to be confident or doubting it. We have every reason it's not a Christian faith, it's not a blind faith at all.
We don't just wake up believing it for no reason. We've seen what God has done. We've seen he's trustworthy. The you know, the hundreds of prophecies about Jesus, where the town he'll be born in, you know, what he'll be like, the things he'll do, the death he dies. They all come true.
And so god has demonstrated his faithfulness. And so therefore, you go, well, he's made these promises. He's delivered on them. He's trustworthy. Therefore, we can trust him with future things as well.
And in that sense, it's not a blind faith. No. So when people say, I wish I wish I had your blind faith, you go, it's not blind. Yes. And what they mean is the sort of faith that doesn't care about reason or facts -- Yes.
-- or, you know, I wish I could live as if facts weren't important. Yes. You know, because they're thinking it's so unbelievable. Yeah. We're saying, no.
Our faith is rooted in fact -- Yeah. -- history, you know, you know. So And the things we don't know we're trusting for. But we do that all the time. So if you if you come to me this morning and said I had a dream about you, Pete, winning a million pat million pounds.
I've got no way proving whether you had that dream or not, you're just lying to me. But because I know you and you don't usually lie, I could trust you with the thing I don't know. Yeah. And that's really what it is with God, isn't it? There's loads of stuff we don't know.
Mhmm. It's not a blind faith. It's based on Yeah. But what I do know, what I can investigate, what I can put my finger on and say is this right or wrong, fits. So why wouldn't I trust him with the stuff that I I can't prove or not prove?
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. So there's lots of good stuff there in terms of definition and what faith is.
Let's just sort of try to drill down into it a bit more. And there's kinda 2 directions we could go. Let let's go this way first. So talking about talking about faith and the faith that saves us, you know, there will be Christians and I'm sure we've all, to some extent, had seasons where we've we've doubted, you know, we've been unsure about you know, God's promises or, you know, maybe that's just been a day or an hour or a long season of doubt. And, you know, what what is the role of sort of you know, how how does that affect faith as Christians doubt?
And what do we do with doubt? Mhmm. You know, when we when we come, any thoughts on that? Yeah. Well, well doubt in many ways, is is an attack on trust, isn't it?
Is this is and so I guess we've gotta keep asking the question. When I don't understand why God has allowed something obviously bad to happen within my life, or why do people that are really ungodly do so well sometimes. And I'm thinking, what is going on here? I don't understand, then doubts can happen. And that's where we need to talk the bible to ourselves.
This is where we got to look up the scriptures. And you get a lot of this in the Psalms where the Psalm writer is saying, you know, why do the pagans do so well and the Christian or the believers do so badly. I mean, we were talking about Mozambique and how Christians are being sort of slaughtered there. And and the the wicked religion that's doing that. You know, why is the wicked religion got that power?
And it's not wrong to ask that question. It's in fact absolutely appropriate to ask that question, but it depends where you're asking it and whether you want an answer. So lots of people ask questions of Where's God? And then they walk off, don't they? Why do would God allow this and then they walk off?
Whereas, actually, when you chew that over and listen to his word, you'll see that God works this through with you and he works those doubts through with you. This is why pity these people, in fact, because of what they've got coming to them. You know? And I think that's where I'm not sure if I explained it very well, but I think that's where doubt and faith. So doubt is a great opportunity to grow in faith.
If if you're listening to what he's saying. And I think just, you know, it's interesting, isn't it? When you go this ties into what we looked at, deep devil, When we look back in the Garden of Eden, we see the very first tactic of the snake is to sow seeds of doubt. Isn't it? Did God really say?
It's his first question. And that is a question of doubt. They you know, he wants them to doubt God's goodness and God's faithfulness. And because we live in a world which is just saturated with his lies, you know, we cannot avoid that sort of thinking and hearing those kind of lies. But as you say, you know, it's what we do with the doubts, isn't it?
Do we bring it to the lord? Do we turn it into prayer? Do we read the experiences of those who have doubted in the bible? That's the beautiful thing about the bible, isn't it? There's this honesty, you know?
These readers are not just the perfect model of unwavering faith. Mhmm. You know, even Abrahams who are considered the man of faith. They had great doubts. They lied about stuff.
And the bible records all of that for us because every generation of Christian is gonna face similar things. Mhmm. And it's what we do with it, isn't it? So you know, it's not a sign that somebody is all of a sudden not a believer or has been thrown out of God's family. It's but we do need to deal with it in the right way.
Yeah. And largely, you know, we've got world view that are being pumped into us all the time, you know, by the world. This is what you should believe. This is what it should be right. And it's very hard to have that and get that out of your head.
And very often you've got to go back and relearn things, isn't it? It's like it's not in many ways. Someone told me that doing maths up to a level was is I don't know whether this is true, but I was told you do maths up to a level. And then when you go to university to do applied mass. You basically go, oh, unlearn everything you learned very little.
Right. And now I don't know how true that is, and someone will probably know. But Often, there is stuff like that. You have to unlearn stuff to learn what God is saying and therefore Am I going to trust that he knows better than what I've been informed with before? It's a good opportunity as well to take stock and think about what your faith is based on if you have a season or a period of doubt.
Because what's changed You have to ask that question. I did believe, and now I don't. What did I what was the basis of my belief before? An interesting thing happens with John The Baptist, we were talking about. Because obviously John the Baptist is the greatest man to ever live.
That's what Jesus said. This is the greatest man to ever live. And when he's in prison, This is also the 1 that I said, you know, comes the lamb of God. He takes the lamb of God. He takes away the sins of the world and after me will come someone greater.
So he's absolutely got the right idea of Jesus. He understands the scriptures. He knows who Christ is, and yet in prison near the end of his life, he has doubts, and he sends his disciples to go to Jesus to ask him, are you the Messiah? And Jesus really lovingly and kindly. This I think this shows God's heart for people who do doubt.
He doesn't say, you know, what you've abandoned me, John. You were meant to be the greatest man who ever lived. He says he says go back and tell John, you know, the blind received sight, the gospel is preached, and there's resurrection, I think it is, or there's the deader race of life. And John hears that message. And it's a reiteration, a re sort of going over the prophecies and the promises of who the Christ will be.
And Christ is saying, yes, those prophecies that you once trusted in, I am fulfilling all of those things. And so what has changed, John? The the basis that you used to believe hasn't changed. And the message I give to you now is not a new message not a new revelation, but it's telling you to go back and look at what has already been said. So the principle for us is Are we basing our faith in the promises made in scripture and at who Christ is?
And when we doubt, it's probably us that's moved away. We we we start wanting gods to be a feeling for us or like, you know, we want things to go well for us. But actually, Christ says, no. Come back and look at me. Come back and look at the scriptures and see how I fulfill all of these from promises.
And so what we've been talking about, our faith isn't blind. It's based on God's word. And the trust that we have in him. And your your point about God's graciousness to him there, Jesus's gracious to him is is really important, because as you were speaking, I was thinking as well of of that scene in Mark chapter 9 where you've got this amazing bit where Jesus comes down the mountain, and he finds this young boy who's being ravaged by Satan -- Mhmm. -- and that the disciples and the teachers of the law, they're all having a big fuss and argument about why this demon won't come out.
And and then that the father of the boy comes to Jesus, and there's this moment where he says, Lord, I believe, help me overcome my unbelief. That's a great way to deal with doubt, isn't it? Yeah. You know, Lord, I believe your trustworthy, your promises are true, but I'm experiencing a disconnect. Between what I believe and how I'm living, will you help me help me?
And Jesus does. But who does he rebuke at the end? Is the disciples? Because they say why couldn't we drive it out? And he says you didn't pray.
Yeah. You know? And so there's a 1 of there's 2 models. There's a doubt they're arguing and they're looking inside themselves, Jesus rebukes them. There's a man who doubts but brings it to Jesus since it's helped me.
And Jesus bless Jesus blesses him. And so that is the way to -- Absolutely. -- to deal with it, isn't it? And they were having faith in their own ability or Yeah. Exactly.
All their own position. And Yeah. Yeah. So come to church, you know, if you are doubting, some people think -- Talk to people. Yeah.
Yeah. -- some people think, well, I'm not going through a rough patch here with my faith. Yes. So I won't go to church, you know, until I feel better. Yeah.
Otherwise, I feel like a hypocrite. Well, actually, that's the opposite of what you should be doing. Yeah. Absolutely. The 1 who went to Christ with his doubts was the 1 that In many ways, it happens on every level, doesn't it?
I mean, if you take the you know. So, you know, I don't wanna get into whether you should or shouldn't take it. That's completely up to people's consciences. But, you know, if you're saying, I doubt whether this is I think this is a dangerous thing, then it's worth you looking into it, isn't it? And investigating and making a decision on that.
Not just saying, I'm not taking it because I heard a story once somewhere -- Yeah. -- you know, that someone got a blood clot. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
So Is it possible then? It's another type of question. Is it possible to grow in faith? Mhmm. And if so, how do you do that?
Yeah. Definitely. And the Bible is is is is doing that. It's it's saying that that we grow in our trust. As you grow in trust with anyone, really.
When you first meet someone, you know, you might be a bit wary and you chat with them and enjoy them and They say they're gonna pick you up and they do pick you up. And so, you know, trust is born in relationship, isn't it? And so The way we become a Christian is this saving faith, which is saying it's not by my works, but it's by what Jesus has done that I trust in. That was that first verse that I started off with in Ephesians 2. So I'm trusting that Jesus' death and resurrection will deal with my sin, not not my works or religion or who I am.
But once I've trusted in Christ, I'm learning to love him, see how much he loves me, I'm understanding the depths of his relationship, his kindness, his grace. But, you know, those things you don't just know And even if you do know them intellectually, they're worked out in relationship. So Christianity is a relational religion. It's not just a is it? It's not just a a set of works.
It's knowing God. I mean, that's what it's called, isn't it? That salvation is to know God. Through Christ Jesus. And so as we know him, we learn to trust him.
We go through doubts and difficulties in life, and we ask why and we learn to trust him for our future, that he knows best, and that he is the sovereign lord of the universe, and those things grow. And Where we see them grow, I think in according to the scriptures, is that there will be good deeds. So it's interesting, isn't it? That It's not by works that I'm saved, it's by if trust in what Jesus has done. But trust in Jesus without works says James, is is is no faith at all.
It's no trust at all. You're not really trusting. So I begin to follow God's plan for my life, which is to glorify Christ. And to build his church up. Mhmm.
So I start But that's essentially you say, because, I mean, it was yeah. Well, that was 1 of the things I was wanting to come on to that that, you know, in my experience of speaking to Muslims, the university. This is 1 of the big things they often say about Christianity that. You know, as we rightly stress, salvation by faith, they say so you can just live how you want. No.
They can't get get over the idea that without a slight sword of damocles hanging over your head, you you wouldn't live right, you know, you need the sort of threat of judgement to motivate you. And the idea that if you're just saved by faith, well, I can go and do whatever I want and God will just forgive me. But, you know, you've sort of helped me begun to sort of show why that doesn't work. You know, any other thoughts on on, you know, on that. Yeah.
So, I mean, if you have faith, it's a gift from God. And that will go hand in hand with him giving you his holy spirit to dwell in you. And that will also go hand in hand with him inscribing his law upon your heart. So when God saves his people, he he writes the law on our hearts, which means that we desire to follow them we don't have a sort of fallen heart that desires to rebel against Gordon, but we're constrained by this written law. We now have a law upon our own heart so that we want to follow God.
And that is that is so when you see a Christian who has a kind of Christian love for their neighbor or their brother or sister. That is a god given, god pointed god sort of grown love that they have for that person. So it's not by that that they're saved, but it's because they have faith in God because he's working in them by his Holy Spirit because he's writing their laws upon their heart, so they want to follow. Because that's that's the thing you can say to the Muslim is, I am free I supposed to do anything because Christ has paid it for every penalty of my sin and yet I do not want to go to the brothel. I do not want to go to and go and gamble.
Mhmm. I want to be faithful to my wife and I want to give my life for the lord. Yeah. It's relational. Which is back to them.
Because if you say what does your heart want, they well, they're like, well, of course, I wanna go to the brothel because, you know, but I'm constrained by this as you said soared above me, it's totally different than what the gospel does. I remember, I think it's Martin Luther who said something like we are saved by faith alone. But never by a faith which is alone. In other words, the gift of faith is an explosive dynamic gift. And if it is given to you, although you're saved by it alone, it cannot help.
No. But burst into Absolutely. And it doesn't make sense, is it? No. I'm going to trust in Christ because if faith is trust, I'm gonna trust in Christ that he knows better how I should live my life than me.
I'm gonna put my trust in him and he tells me that you be faithful to your wife, and I'm thinking, but it would be more fun not to be. I'm gonna say, yeah, but I trust Jesus. So if I trust Jesus, I'll be faithful to my wife. In 1 sense, it's sort of -- Yeah. Automatic, although that's not the word that's ever used because you've used love language, which is right.
And and Jane says this, if you see a brother or sister that haven't got any food, and say, oh, I have faith but you don't feed them. You don't have faith. Because if you have faith in jesus He says they're your brothers and sisters. And if they're your brothers and sisters, he would go out of your way to help them. So it it go rides together.
It's your wheelbarrow picture all over again. Those people sort of clapping on the side -- Yeah. -- not believing they could be safely taken across -- Yeah. -- are people who profess faith, but don't really who aren't doing the deeds. Well, when James says -- Yeah.
-- that that that it's not just an intellectual because he says that the devils know that Jesus is the son of God. Yeah. And they shudder and they they shudder at it. So there's there's something in them that says, I know that's Jesus -- Yeah. -- I believe that's Jesus the son of God -- Yeah.
-- they shudder but they don't put their trust in him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic.
Okay. Well, coming to the end now. I mean, I just it's a bit meandering, but I just had another thought when we were talking about growing in faith there that remember, I think 1 of the things you said Pete once before was that, you know, growing in faith as well as growing in kind of trust of God's promises and trust in who he is. It's it's a growing distrust in yourself as well. And in 1 sense, a mature Christian is is seen in how much they know their own heart is deceitful.
Yeah. You know, the the more mature they are, they're more they less they trust themselves, don't they? And I guess that's part of what faith is, isn't it? It's a growing distrust in self. And it's almost the opposite to what, you know well, it is the opposite to to to the big belief system today, which is to trust yourself -- Mhmm.
-- to look to yourself. And that's why the world is screwed up. And that's why so many young people are totally confused about everything from sexuality to what is life about to suicidal thoughts and so forth. Because because they're trying to find a big answer and a big narrative in themselves rather than looking out of themselves. And trusting in Christ.
So these are not academic little things. This is absolutely essential, isn't it? And part of the wonderful thing about being a Christian is to show the world. I do not trust myself. I will not I mean, just just think about this whole pandemic thing that we've been in.
You know, it's it's it's so much trust in science, trust in science, trust in man, isn't it? And thankfully, God in his common grace and kindness has given us scientists that can find a vaccine and all vaccines. But, you know, that's to just stop there and trust in man. Surely, it's obvious that that doesn't work. Okay.
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